Curse

Ninlawen · Jun 09, 2005, 12:46 AM // 00:46

When you kill many of the boss mobs the game immediately goes to a cut-scene, now making it impossible to capture any skills from these mobs. This is also true for all the facets in Dragon's Lair except for the strength facet. Unless there is a way to get around this, I'd say this is a pretty serious problem. Hopefully some carification or another hotfix will come soon

Elythor · Jun 09, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03

For Dragon's Lair, you don't trigger the scene unless you walk into the portal....so just tell your party not to walk into the portal.

But that's true you won't be able to cap Hundred Blades after defeating you-know-who.

Ninlawen · Jun 09, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29

From my experience it goes to the cutscene after like 5 seconds of killing the facet, if you run into the portal within that time you skip the cutscene and go straight to the next area. I could be wrong though, haven't done a lot of experimentation with it.

spiritofcat · Jun 09, 2005, 01:53 AM // 01:53

A solution to this would be a dialog like the unclaimed items one that appears after the completion of the mission. It would list all the boss monsters that you had killed in the mission and allow you to capture from them then. Of course, this isn't an optimal solution because the fact that you end up back in a town means you could equip more capture signets to harvest extra skills. But something LIKE that could do the job...

Ninlawen · Jun 09, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Yeah it would require some sort of purgatory area after the mission (pass or fail) where you could cast SoC and pick through all the boss mobs you killed. I'm sure this will be sorted out fairly quickly as it seems like it will impede the progress of a good number of people.

Drakron · Jun 09, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Perhaps two versions of the signet, one like this one and one like the old one.

eA-Zaku · Jun 09, 2005, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I was going to say something like that. I was going to say that perhaps they should have left the SoC alone, as well as adding on that option. This way you can capture skills while the enemy is alive, like end bosses (You-know-who is not the only boss with Hundred Blades, last time I checked) and for convenience, normal bosses could be capped when they are dead.

Helios · Jun 09, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

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Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

I was going to say something like that. I was going to say that perhaps they should have left the SoC alone, as well as adding on that option. This way you can capture skills while the enemy is alive, like end bosses (You-know-who is not the only boss with Hundred Blades, last time I checked) and for convenience, normal bosses could be capped when they are dead.

Isn't that exactly what they changed it to? Has anyone actually tried to capture a skill as of the update to prove this?

Edit:Nevermind, tried it. It does stink if anyone wants to get 100 Blades... unless they made a change to what happens after fighting that particular boss.

Ninlawen · Jun 09, 2005, 04:31 AM // 04:31

You can't cast it until you're in range of a dead boss mob.

Helios · Jun 09, 2005, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Good news! I just went through the mission with the unspeakable boss that has 100 Blades to check it out. His body is available for skill reaping after the cinematic. It will be right next to you afterwards.

InvaderGIR · Jun 09, 2005, 07:34 AM // 07:34

What about you-know-who with Barrage then? I haven't tested that out, but I know upon killing him, it triggers the cutscene that'll end the mission.

Helios · Jun 09, 2005, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Someone will just have to test it. I wouldn't worry. If it's unattainable, ANet will hear about it and hopefully fix it. But something tells me they didn't do this without taking cutscenes into consideration.

Bazooka · Jun 09, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20

I concur that this is an annoyance. Hopefully the "adding more bosses who use elite skills" in the last update helps mitigate this, somewhat.

Explore young padawan

Galatea · Jun 09, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Drakron

Perhaps two versions of the signet, one like this one and one like the old one.

Or rather than two -- the one single signet to work during battle AS WELL AS after mob's death.

Lewick · Jun 09, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by InvaderGIR

What about you-know-who with Barrage then? I haven't tested that out, but I know upon killing him, it triggers the cutscene that'll end the mission.

You can still get it. You just need to kill you-know-who before the you-know-whats around him die. Just keep one of the you-know-whats alive, kill you-know-who, and then capture you-know-what into your you-know-where.

Deathlord · Jun 09, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Pretty much an easy solution that most people have already caught on. Just allow it so that you can cap while battling and during death, simple and easy.

zemelett · Jun 09, 2005, 05:57 PM // 17:57

I was playing this area last night and we discovered that if you pull the dragon away from his start location before killing him it wont trigger the cut sceene untill you walk back to where he was.

Talesin Darkbriar · Jun 09, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by Helios

Good news! I just went through the mission with the unspeakable boss that has 100 Blades to check it out. His body is available for skill reaping after the cinematic. It will be right next to you afterwards.

Aye Helios, but there are several coop missions that have you zoning to new lands immediately after; and in those cases it is indeed still an issue.

I liked the idea of if you had a signet in your hotbar, you have the option at mission conclusion to capture one of the abilities (if applicable.)

Talesin

Oni No Arashi · Jun 09, 2005, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by Lewick

You can still get it. You just need to kill you-know-who before the you-know-whats around him die. Just keep one of the you-know-whats alive, kill you-know-who, and then capture you-know-what into your you-know-where.

This is a negative. As soon as he was dead it went to the cut scene. Sucked, majorly

Lewick · Jun 09, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Oni No Arashi

This is a negative. As soon as he was dead it went to the cut scene. Sucked, majorly

Ok that's just broken then. They'll need to put out a patch to allow both in-fight captures and post-mortem captures. I think the whole point of their patch was to reduce the spamming people had to do on the SoC in order to get the correct skill, and some people were having issues getting the timing correct.

With the above you-know-who, he used the skill so often it was easy to capture it. I captured Spell Breaker last night and it seemed so goofy and easy to capture it, it almost depressed me.